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Post by redanarchist on Jul 26, 2008 8:20:18 GMT -5
In this thread, we'll show them why Communism is not evil.
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 26, 2008 8:28:47 GMT -5
 www.cubatruth.org/index.html Literacy Before & After The Revolution 1952 54% 2005 100% Sources: (1) UNICEF & (2) Encarta Encylopedia. Life Expectancy Before & After The Revolution 1950 55.8 years 2006 78 years Sources: (1) UNICEF & (2) "The Health Revolution in Cuba," Sergio Díaz-Briquets, University of Texas Press. Austin, Texas. 1993. pp. 19. Infant Mortality* Before & After The Revolution 1958 60 2004 5.8 Sources: (1) Statistics Bureau, Cuban Ministry of Public Health & (2) UNICEF. * The number of deaths of infants under one year old in a given year per 1,000 live births in the same year. Infant Mortality Rate* Haiti 93.35 Bolivia 57.52 Guyana 38.37 Peru 38.18 Dominican Republic 33.41 Ecuador 33.02 Nicaragua 32.52 Honduras 30.48 Paraguay 28.75 El Salvador 27.58 Mexico 24.52 Trinidad & Tobago 24.20 Suriname 23.48 Colombia 23.21 Panama 19.57 Argentina 17.20 Dominica 15.94 Grenada 14.63 Jamaica 13.71 French Guinana 13.22 Barbados 11.71 Costa Rica 10.87 Puerto Rico 9.30 United States 7.00 Cuba 5.80 Sources: (1) Statistics Bureau, Cuban Ministry of Public Health, (2) CIA factbook & (3) UNICEF. Youth Literacy Rate Haiti 67.0% Honduras 86.4% Brazil 95.8% Colombia 97.2% Mexico 97.4% Argentina 98.7% Cuba 100% Sources: (1) World Development Indicators, (World Bank, 1998, 1999) & (2) U.N. Statistics Division, Millennium Indicators. Human Poverty Index* Haiti 42.3% Honduras 20.5% Brazil 12.2% Mexico 9.4% Colombia 8.9% Cuba 4.1% Sources: United Nations Development Program (UNDP) 2003 Human Development Indicators and Project On Human Development. |
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 26, 2008 8:32:09 GMT -5
Persons Per Doctor
Haiti 10,005
Honduras 2,500
Colombia 1,105
Dominican Republic 949
Brazil 844
United States 421
Cuba 169
Sources: (1) World Development Indicators, (World Bank,
1997), (2) "World Almanac and Book of Facts 2004," (3) "Student
Atlas of World Politics 4th Edition," Dushkin/McGraw-Hill, 2000 &
(4) Encarta Encylopedia.
Persons Per Hospital Bed
Haiti 1,250
Honduras 1,000
Colombia 909
Dominican Republic 670
Brazil 370
United States 303
Cuba 185
Sources: (1) "Student Atlas of World Politics 4th
Edition," Dushkin/McGraw-Hill, 2000, (2) Encarta
Encylopedia.
Proportion of Births Attended by Skilled Health Personnel
Haiti 24%
Honduras 54%
Colombia 86%
Mexico 86%
Brazil 88%
Argentina 98%
Cuba 100%
Source: U.N. Statistics Division, Millennium Indicators
Unemployment Rate
Haiti 70%
Guadeloupe 26.9%
French Guiana 19.2%
Dominican Republic 17%
Uruguay 16.8%
Argentina 15.6%
Colombia 14.2%
Suriname 13.8%
Venezuela 12.2%
Puerto Rico 12%
Trinidad & Tobago 10.4%
Ecuador 11.4%
Peru 10.3%
Brazil 9.7%
Paraguay 9.2%
Guyana 9.1%
Chile 8.1%
Bolivia 8%
Canada 7%
United States 5.5%
Cuba 1.9%
Sources: (1) CIA World Factbook, (2) Encarta
Encylopedia & (3) "Investigating the Effects of
Withheld Humanitarian Aid," a report of the Haiti
Reborn/Quixote Center.
Inflation Rate (%)
Dominican Republic 51.20
Haiti 27.00
Venezuela 16.00
Jamaica 12.60
Argentina 9.60
Suriname 9.50
Paraguay 9.20
Bolivia 8.50
Brazil 8.20
Uruguay 7.40
Colombia 7.10
Chile 6.60
Mexico 6.10
Guyana 6.70
Puerto Rico 6.50
Peru 5.70
United States 3.20
Canada 3.00
Cuba 0.30
Sources: (1) CIA World Factbook,
(2) World Development Indicators,
(World Bank, 2004, 2005), (3) Latin
Business Chronicle, 2002.
Proportion of Population with Access to Improved Sanitation
(Urban and Rurual)
Haiti 28%
Mexico 74%
Honduras 75%
Argentina 82%
Colombia 86%
Cuba 98%
Source: U.N. Statistics Division, Millennium Indicators.
Women In Parliamentary Seats
Haiti 4%
Honduras 6%
Brazil 9%
Colombia 12.2%
United States 14%
Mexico 15.9%
Argentina 31.3%
Cuba 36%
Source: U.N. Statistics Division, Millennium Indicators.
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 26, 2008 8:36:37 GMT -5
Women's gains
The Cuban constitution guarantees full equality for women. Women receive equal wages as men for doing the same work, and sexual discrimination is forbidden by law.
By law, men must share equally in house work with women with whom they live.
Pregnant women in Cuba are guaranteed maternity leave, with full pay, before and after the birth of their child/ren.
49.5% of all Cubans who have graduated college, and 62% of all Cubanns who are currently university students are women.
Before the Cuban Revolution women made up less than 20% of the workforce (17% in 1956). One of the largest areas of employment for women was prostitution (mostly with tourists from the U.S.). Today women comprise 44% of the workforce in Cuba.
66.4% of all technicians, 87% of all administrators, 53.9% of all service workers, 51% of all doctors, 43% of all scientists and 33.5% of all managers in Cuba are women.
35% of the members of Cuban Parliament are Women. 16.1% of the State Council, 18% of the ministers, 22.7% of the Vice-Ministers, 61% of all attorneys, 20% of all officers in the armed forces, 49% of all judges and 47% of all judges in the Supreme Court in Cuba are women.
The life expectancy of women in Cuba is 79.8 years, several years higher than the average in Latin America.
Maternal mortality in Cuba is only 33.9 per 100,000 live births. The average for Latin America in 2004 was 94.7.
Infant mortality in Cuba is 5.8 per 1000 live births (the lowest in Latin America, and lower than that of the U.S.).
As for all Cubans, access to education and health services, including sexual and reproductive health is universal and free for all Cuban women.
Abortion, which was legalized in 1965, is free to all Cuban women on demand.
Childcare is provided in Cuba for all children from 3 months to school age at rates so low, it's basically free.
Eighty-five percent of Cuban women over the age of 14 are members of a grass roots Non-governmental organization called the "Federation of Cuban Women." To a large extent, the success in implementing the legislation relating to the rights of women has been achieved thanks to the work of the Federation of Cuban Women. The Federation plays a major part in the debate and creation of laws that affect Cuban women.
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Post by mykittyhasaboner on Jul 26, 2008 9:50:37 GMT -5
communism has risen peoples living standards all over the world. it promotes solidarity, cooperation, freedom, and liberty.
capitalism can only give workers high living standards by exploiting other nations. and advocates competition, greed, profits over people, and systematic oppression of workers everywhere.
its as simple as that.
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Post by leninsbane on Jul 28, 2008 14:26:43 GMT -5
No other system has reduvceed poverty or raised living standards as much as Capitalism.
What good is free public education if all you're going to be for the rest of your life is an asset of the state?
I predict that 20 years doen the road, everyone will not be able to deny what a brutal slave pen Cuba is, and you all will come here telling us that Cuban was "not real communism"
;D
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 29, 2008 5:12:01 GMT -5
No other system has reduvceed poverty or raised living standards as much as Capitalism. What good is free public education if all you're going to be for the rest of your life is an asset of the state? I predict that 20 years doen the road, everyone will not be able to deny what a brutal slave pen Cuba is, and you all will come here telling us that Cuban was "not real communism" ;D Nope I and others who subscribe to the 4th international will be saying this is what happens to isolated revolution. No communist state can survive indefinite seige and harsh economic undermining, not even cuba. |
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Post by leninsbane on Jul 30, 2008 0:50:17 GMT -5
The US embargo against Cuba amounts to 10% of Cuban GDP being reduced...initially. Since then, Cuba trades with nearly every other country in Latin America, Japan, Canada and others. They are in the state they are in because of self-inflicted abuse due to the economy controlled from one command center. You are essentially blaming the rest of the world for not being communist. This is the same argument you all used to explain the fall of the Soviet Union. Only after the wall came down did you all try to disown them. And what is unmistakable is that you approve of a slave pen that abuses human rights and keps the people in poverty. I've been there, they have nothing but their monthly rations. For all your bullshit about not abolishing private possessions, you actually support this regime. Hey no worries, its all good!  |
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 30, 2008 7:07:58 GMT -5
The US embargo against Cuba amounts to 10% of Cuban GDP being reduced...initially. Since then, Cuba trades with nearly every other country in Latin America, Japan, Canada and others. They are in the state they are in because of self-inflicted abuse due to the economy controlled from one command center. I'm not referring specifically to the US embargo. The end of soviet aid, as well as the negative attitude of all western countries towards cuba have all had a toll. You are essentially blaming the rest of the world for not being communist. This is the same argument you all used to explain the fall of the Soviet Union. Only after the wall came down did you all try to disown them. I'm simply stating a fact, i happen to agree with the trotskyist postulate that communism is only operable pan-globally. Why does capitalism have the moral high ground to be the dominant ideaology considering the misery it has wrecked upon most of the southern hemisphere? And what is unmistakable is that you approve of a slave pen that abuses human rights and keps the people in poverty. I've been there, they have nothing but their monthly rations. For all your bullshit about not abolishing private possessions, you actually support this regime. I dont believe cuba in its current state is a fair representation of ideal communism. I do believe however that its socialist tenents have prevented the cuban people from falling into greater hardship than they would be under capitalism (the above figures prove that) Also the reason they have rationing in cuba is because it is still in a state of de facto war with the usa as other countries during war have had rationing. So that is a strawman point. Cuba like previous post revolutionary states do not represent 'peacetime' communism. Its worth remembering that immediately post revolution, cuba had medical and education systems that were the envy of the western world. It only started to deteriorate after the sanctions. |
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Post by leninsbane on Jul 30, 2008 20:43:01 GMT -5
Again you blame everyone but Cuba for their mess. Cuba has no trouble trading with anyone other than the US, and they use US currency. I supposed you blame the atrocious human rights on the supposed "defacto war" situation. This is identical, identical to the excuses made for the Soviet Union my the majority of Western Communists during the cold war. It appears that the emotion involved in your sordid ideology makes you see "straw men" everywhere.  |
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Post by ulstersocialist on Jul 31, 2008 13:39:56 GMT -5
Again you blame everyone but Cuba for their mess. Cuba has no trouble trading with anyone other than the US, and they use US currency. I supposed you blame the atrocious human rights on the supposed "defacto war" situation. Most if not all of the carribbean countries use the US dollar, not least because of the aggression with which the US has pursued its economic hegemony in that region. As for alleged human rights issues, if you want to pursue this the burden in on you to produce evidence. This is identical, identical to the excuses made for the Soviet Union my the majority of Western Communists during the cold war. It appears that the emotion involved in your sordid ideology makes you see "straw men" everywhere. well why not? If the same tactics applied to undermine the soviet union for all intensive purposes worked why break with tradition? |
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Post by leninsbane on Jul 31, 2008 22:18:58 GMT -5
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Post by kelleher1 on Aug 12, 2008 15:55:52 GMT -5
I'm not surprised if you won't admit death toll of the student and race riots in America....
Oh and the British East India Company of course, I'm sure the natives in the colonies prospered much...
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Post by solzhenitsyn08 on Sept 26, 2008 3:30:29 GMT -5
Why a political poem?
Because the North-Koreans are just as much slaves as they ever Were,
Under the burden
Of “YouTube ban”
And that's why the red generals of Turkey and Syria don't like
people, even hated!
In these countries none dare to try and get them out of their
slavery say I exasperated.
By the oppression in semi military regimes releasing anti democratic “biip biip”…
Iran people also sigh, looking meanwhile about the cheerless and dirty internet censorship.
This sort of sigh must exasperate poets more.
For,
I know your aristocratic views. I know that you apply
All the power of your intellect to justify
Existing evils, and make all of them gone by!
Prof. Mes
Why a political poem?
Because the North-Koreans are just as much slaves as they ever Were,
Under the burden
Of “YouTube ban”
And that's why the red generals of Turkey and Syria don't like
people, even hated!
In these countries none dare to try and get them out of their
slavery say I exasperated.
By the oppression in semi military regimes releasing anti democratic “biip biip”…
Iran people also sigh, looking meanwhile about the cheerless and dirty internet censorship.
This sort of sigh must exasperate poets more.
For,
I know your aristocratic views. I know that you apply
All the power of your intellect to justify
Existing evils, and make all of them gone by!
Prof. Mes
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Post by solzhenitsyn08 on Oct 7, 2008 4:55:21 GMT -5
PROF. MES-TURKISH SOLZHENITSYN
(BLESS THE HOLLY MISSION FROM ALEXANDRE S. TO M. E. SURAT)
TURNED INTO AN INTERNATIONAL FIGURE
AND NOW TALKS TO THE WORLD’S INTELLECTUALS
LASTLY HE SALUTED THE OLD EARTH WITHIN SELECTIVE POINTS
(See please in Prof. Mes AB, and Prof. Mes ALLPOETRY)
Terror Warning Document
KEY WORDS:
THE SECOND SOVIET PRESIDIUM: The Steel Core of the Secret Kemalist State which is the real owner of The Turkish Grand National Assembly, Presidency of the State, Turkish Army, Turkish Media, All Political Parties, Terror Organizations like PKK and Turkish Al Qaida; All of the Unions of Turkish employees and employers, Universities, The Higher Courts Judges, and Intelligence Services, all of the Associations etc.!
MELTEM-MESAJ COMP: You know this name from the Turkish Al-Qaida media organs
, namely, Mesaj TV, and Al-Qaida Gazette (Yeni Mesaj). The company is being used by the Second Soviet at times in sending some part of the covered money of Turkish Army Budget to foreign countries to afford the secret war of The Second Soviet State of Turkey Vulture against the Americans, Europeans, Jews, and Good Arabs.
THEATRICAL MASTERPIECE: The Fake Fight Play written by Turkey Vulture and represented by twin brothers-Aydýn Doðan & PM Tayyip Erdoðan tragicomically over the Deniz Feneri Case to attract the World Attention to the WRONG DIRECTION!
THE RIGHT DIRECTION: TO WHICH CENTERS THE MONEY had been SENT TERROR Would have BE COMING FROM THERE! (Especially the Americans and Jews must learn to which terror centers the money-totally3-4 billion dollars reached over Syria, Iran, and Caucasian Region JUST THIS VERY WEEK!)
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